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• How would ideologues like Thomas Tuchel or Julian Nagelsmann eventually find this if they agreed to bring Ronaldo in?Such sentiments of course carry greater weight because of the player’s historic legacy in the game, a factor that has been influential in the current situation given how concerned he is with that stature Soccer
  
  It is why the debate about where United would have been without Ronaldo was always the wrong discussion Soccer
  
  The Norwegian, for one, was always short of the level required and it felt a matter of time until that was eventually realised Soccer
  
  In Cristiano Ronaldo’s talks with Jorge Mendes, and the representative’s meetings with top clubs, a few points have been made abundantly clear Soccer
  
  Even Ole Gunnar Solskjaer had enough questions as long ago as last August that he rang Sir Alex Ferguson for counsel when the signing was broached Soccer
  
  He is so dominant a figure that a side has to become “Ronaldo FC”, where everything needs to be in service for him Soccer
  
  It certainly meant it was like training with 10 men Soccer
  
  Ronaldo is said to have been taken aback at how United had regressed when he returned in September Soccer
  
  That remains true, and is something clubs like Chelsea and Bayern Munich are at least considering Soccer
  
  The great question, and great complication at this delicate stage of his career, is whether signing Ronaldo is more or less likely to bring the trophy Soccer
  
  It’s just that a prominent indication of those problems might be the very signing of Ronaldo Soccer
  
  At least until you got the ball to him in the box Soccer
  
  It’s that there was often a resistance in terms of personality Soccer
  
  You have to significantly change the structure for the Portuguese to accommodate him, so it isn’t what it was Soccer
  
  RecommendedKalvin Phillips recalls moment Guardiola left him ‘speechless’ as he confirms Man City moveManchester United uncertain when Cristiano Ronaldo will return to trainingFootball rumours: Armando Broja chased by West Ham and EvertonThe other side to consider is that those goals come at a considerable cost, way beyond wages or any nominal transfer fee Soccer
  
  As both Juventus and now United have found out, it isn’t just a simplistic case of adding Ronaldo’s goals to an existing structure Soccer
  
  Ronaldo just wants to have a chance of winning the Champions League again, and is even willing to take a significant pay cut to make it happen Soccer
  
  It wasn’t just that Ronaldo physically doesn’t have the mobility any more, either, although that has been a significant issue Soccer
  
  His signing can no longer be a natural fit to what was there Soccer
  
  Ronaldo scored important goals for United but they suffered their worst ever Premier League season Soccer
  
  That prominence led to a contradiction at both United and Juve, as well as a line repeatedly heard at both clubs: “It’s like playing with 10 men” Soccer
  
  The real difference was that signing him meant this wasn’t the same United Soccer
  
  This is no game, nor is it an attempt to leverage Manchester United Soccer
  
  The view that was the most seductive at that point, as it is now, is that Ronaldo “is a guarantee of goals” Soccer
  
  The club patriarch’s stance was to “get it done” Soccer
  
  When the Portuguese has got particularly bored with work on team shape or automatisms, he has stated that training should be “fun” Soccer
  
  Clubs with fully-defined football identities are less likely to bring in the 37-year-old, because they are aware that it’s impossible for him not to impose his own identity Soccer
  
  Training drills have been soundtracked by Ronaldo muttering “this is shit” or kicking a ball away Soccer
  
  These are concerns that have only grown, to get to this point where it feels a waste of his limited time to stay at the club Soccer
  
  (AFP via Getty Images)It’s also undeniable that the Portuguese found himself at both clubs during transitional periods in their recent histories Soccer
  
  Ensuring this great legend can score at the same rate now tends to mean the team can’t, because of the tactical compromises necessary Soccer
  
  In short, the sides couldn’t be fully synchronised Soccer
  
  Ronaldo might just have hastened it Soccer
  
  Hence United went from 73 league goals last season to 57 this, and Juventus went from 86 goals in 2017-18 to 70, 76 and 77 in their three campaigns with Ronaldo Soccer
  
  There is a fair argument that it is time to let go Soccer
  
  An increasing number of figures at Old Trafford have been wondering exactly that Soccer
  
  Set moves would just break down because the movement in one key area wasn’t there Soccer
  
  This isn’t to absolve any of Solskjaer, Ralf Rangnick or the series of Juventus managers Ronaldo played under Soccer
  
  All of Ronaldo’s progressive-minded recent managers, from Maurizio Sarri through to Rangnick, found that they realistically had to do team work with only nine of the outfield players Soccer
  
  It caused particular problems for Sarri given how integrated he needs his teams to be Soccer
  
  For United, it is whether keeping Ronaldo is most conducive to getting back to that level Soccer
  
  
  
  In short, the sides couldn’t be fully synchronised Soccer
  
  It wasn’t just that Ronaldo physically doesn’t have the mobility any more, either, although that has been a significant issue Soccer
  
  That remains true, and is something clubs like Chelsea and Bayern Munich are at least considering Soccer
  
  It caused particular problems for Sarri given how integrated he needs his teams to be Soccer
  
  Clubs with fully-defined football identities are less likely to bring in the 37-year-old, because they are aware that it’s impossible for him not to impose his own identity Soccer
  
  Even Ole Gunnar Solskjaer had enough questions as long ago as last August that he rang Sir Alex Ferguson for counsel when the signing was broached Soccer
  
  Ronaldo is said to have been taken aback at how United had regressed when he returned in September Soccer
  
  The club patriarch’s stance was to “get it done” Soccer
  
  At least until you got the ball to him in the box Soccer
  
  Ronaldo just wants to have a chance of winning the Champions League again, and is even willing to take a significant pay cut to make it happen Soccer
  
  Training drills have been soundtracked by Ronaldo muttering “this is shit” or kicking a ball away Soccer
  
  There is a fair argument that it is time to let go Soccer
  
  This isn’t to absolve any of Solskjaer, Ralf Rangnick or the series of Juventus managers Ronaldo played under Soccer
  
  Ensuring this great legend can score at the same rate now tends to mean the team can’t, because of the tactical compromises necessary Soccer
  
  The real difference was that signing him meant this wasn’t the same United Soccer
  
  These are concerns that have only grown, to get to this point where it feels a waste of his limited time to stay at the club Soccer
  
  The Norwegian, for one, was always short of the level required and it felt a matter of time until that was eventually realised Soccer
  
  How would ideologues like Thomas Tuchel or Julian Nagelsmann eventually find this if they agreed to bring Ronaldo in?Such sentiments of course carry greater weight because of the player’s historic legacy in the game, a factor that has been influential in the current situation given how concerned he is with that stature Soccer
  
  His signing can no longer be a natural fit to what was there Soccer
  
  Hence United went from 73 league goals last season to 57 this, and Juventus went from 86 goals in 2017-18 to 70, 76 and 77 in their three campaigns with Ronaldo Soccer
  
  As both Juventus and now United have found out, it isn’t just a simplistic case of adding Ronaldo’s goals to an existing structure Soccer
  
  It is why the debate about where United would have been without Ronaldo was always the wrong discussion Soccer
  
  Ronaldo might just have hastened it Soccer
  
  All of Ronaldo’s progressive-minded recent managers, from Maurizio Sarri through to Rangnick, found that they realistically had to do team work with only nine of the outfield players Soccer
  
  The great question, and great complication at this delicate stage of his career, is whether signing Ronaldo is more or less likely to bring the trophy Soccer
  
  For United, it is whether keeping Ronaldo is most conducive to getting back to that level Soccer
  
  Set moves would just break down because the movement in one key area wasn’t there Soccer
  
  He is so dominant a figure that a side has to become “Ronaldo FC”, where everything needs to be in service for him Soccer
  
  This is no game, nor is it an attempt to leverage Manchester United Soccer
  
  The view that was the most seductive at that point, as it is now, is that Ronaldo “is a guarantee of goals” Soccer
  
  It’s that there was often a resistance in terms of personality Soccer
  
  That prominence led to a contradiction at both United and Juve, as well as a line repeatedly heard at both clubs: “It’s like playing with 10 men” Soccer
  
  Ronaldo scored important goals for United but they suffered their worst ever Premier League season Soccer
  
  RecommendedKalvin Phillips recalls moment Guardiola left him ‘speechless’ as he confirms Man City moveManchester United uncertain when Cristiano Ronaldo will return to trainingFootball rumours: Armando Broja chased by West Ham and EvertonThe other side to consider is that those goals come at a considerable cost, way beyond wages or any nominal transfer fee Soccer
  
  It certainly meant it was like training with 10 men Soccer
  
  It’s just that a prominent indication of those problems might be the very signing of Ronaldo Soccer
  
  An increasing number of figures at Old Trafford have been wondering exactly that Soccer
  
  (AFP via Getty Images)It’s also undeniable that the Portuguese found himself at both clubs during transitional periods in their recent histories Soccer
  
  When the Portuguese has got particularly bored with work on team shape or automatisms, he has stated that training should be “fun” Soccer
  
  In Cristiano Ronaldo’s talks with Jorge Mendes, and the representative’s meetings with top clubs, a few points have been made abundantly clear Soccer
  
  You have to significantly change the structure for the Portuguese to accommodate him, so it isn’t what it was Soccer